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You know, it's a hugely difficult thing to take any work of art or drawing and say 'make that real.'

You need to be real enough to be believable, but you don't necessarily have to be real enough to be real. There is a distinction.

Being real is what is important.

Well, its very exasperating when you can't get it right.

I make an effort to keep it as real as I possibly can.

In order to make characters real - no matter what the character is doing - you have to see yourself as capable of having done that.

If you're treated a certain way you become a certain kind of person. If certain things are described to you as being real they're real for you whether they're real or not.

If you don't get it right, what's the point?

I am just trying to keep it real.

The narrative oftentimes is that everything that comes out of the hood is 'real,' and so I thought, 'I'll base it on the absurd, the not real. I'll twist the idea of real on its head and see if I can get away with it. I'll make paintings that come not from a place but through an abstract gaze.'