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As long as I did the good things associated with religion, I thought I was in good shape spiritually, too.

I've put a lot of thought into being a leader.

I'm a spiritual person.

I'm a very driven, ambitious, positive person. But I'm a spiritual person as well.

There is a sense of call to take leadership roles. You're serving people and submitting to God as best you can.

Being a leader for me is about having the courage to speak the truth, and live the truth, despite attempts to silence our thoughts, feelings, and past experiences.

I never thought in terms of being a leader. I thought very simply in terms of helping people.

The most important thing as a leader is your relationship with God.

I've always been a leader my whole life. I've always led. I didn't know how to do anything else.

Yeah, I'm a spiritual person.