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I think fame became exciting for me in the late '90s because I could actually use it as a means to an end. I could actually have it help me serve my vocationfulness.

Fame is ultimately about the cycles of desire and how to do away with them or manage them well.

Fame was thrilling only until it became grueling. Money was fun only until you ran out of things to buy.

Fame had brought me so much unhappiness.

I wanted fame, but I thought it would be incremental, and I became afraid of the overnight-sensation thing.

I've experienced as much fame as I ever want to.

But once I acclimated and really used fame for what it was offering me as a tool to serve my life purpose of inspiring and contributing, then it started to get fun again.

Whatever fame came did so not because I sought it.