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I'm not really into the whole lyrics thing; I just like to make music that people like to listen to.

If you can say the lyrics almost like a poem and they stand up, that's a great thing. Some songs have great lyrics and I don't like the melodies, and vice versa.

I find it harder to write the lyrics afterwards because then you're just trying to fit them into something that's already there.

When it comes to lyrics, I just write down a lot of things, and only a very tiny fraction of it, I think, is any good.

It's weird to try to write lyrics for somebody else. They can't really get behind what you're saying or what you want them to say because they didn't experience it.

I don't like to get too specific about lyrics. It places limitations on them, and spoils the listeners' interpretation.

When I'm writing a song, I'm just making stuff up as I go along.

I tend to write out the first iteration of a lyric here and then go over here and make variations on it, on the page opposite.

Lyrics have become so dumbed down nowadays. People don't want to have to think about lyrics anymore, they just want to be told something. Until these great things started happening with us, I'd really given up on reaching people like that.