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I love pop music. It's not easy to write a good pop song.

Creating a decent pop song is a challenge - and occasionally, once in every decade - it's kind of fun to do that.

Pop is actually my least favorite kind of music, because it lacks real depth.

As a songwriter, pop music really is a love and a joy and a science, and I feel like a lot of people look at pop music with a very formulaic perspective in numbers and patterns, but an outsider would think that the process is very natural.

Pop music doesn't challenge anything.

I don't care about the word 'pop'. The Beatles were pop; it's just what's popular.

I try to not go, 'I'm writing a pop song.' Music is inherently genre-bending.

There is a lot of snobbery towards pop music, to me and pop in general - it's kind of a despised art form.