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Part of the reason I joined Joy Division was so that I really wouldn't have to grow up.

I look back on Joy Division very fondly indeed. I know that, of course, the band came to a tragic end, but that does not change the fact that Joy Division was a great band to be a part of.

I read one too many books about Joy Division by people who weren't there, and they always seem to dwell on the dark, the intense, the miserable image of Joy Division.

I love my work, and I think that I was so lucky to pick a profession where it's a joy to go to work every day.

Up until 1995, I still had a day job that I hated. I was still personally involved in things in the 90s.

Starting a new job is always scary, or at least for me it's always scary. It's like the first day of school.

My whole career is just terror, from beginning to end. That's kind of my thing. A lot of happy accidents happened.

Until I started doing standup, there were some very bleak days.

Over the years, Joy Division has become a huge part of music culture.