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But, you know, the Stones were my opening act in the Sixties. I loved those British guys, the way they just stood there and shook their hair.

When things could've gone really bad, rugby caught my interest and I really stuck with it. The sport brought me, maybe off the streets where we'd be fighting, into putting in a good effort in the rugby field where you're kind of rewarded for that rough behaviour instead of in trouble with the law.

Before there was any chance to go to England, I changed schools, and it was rugby from there on in.

I was a football fan before I became a rugby fan.

I've got an article where my mum says that I used to run home from school to watch the Stones on TV. Right from when I was at college I wanted to be in that band.

Looking back, my whole life seems so surreal. I didn't just turn up on the doorstep playing rugby; I had to go through a whole lot of things to get there.

In my youth I thought I was going to be a professional rugby player.

I still get a great buzz from rugby.

I wasn't picked for any of the sports teams at school because I was half the size of everyone else, but now everyone assumes I must have been some sort of rugby player.

I've done the Rolling Stones eating each other.