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I could go back to the railroad. I liked that job.

For 50 years my father worked for the railroad.

I worked for Union Pacific. I started out as a conductor at an intermodal switching facility outside of Salt Lake City. We'd pull in trains from all over the country, break them apart, consolidate the freight, and build other trains. It was great until I screwed up and took a management position. Then it became no fun very quickly.

My father was a railroad man his entire life; 43 years for Southern Railroad.

My dad was a telegraph operator for the Cotton Belt Railroad. He worked seven nights a week from 4 until midnight, no vacation.

I come from a line of railroad men. My great-grandfather was a surveyor for the Burlington Railroad.

Well, I had a wonderful career.

I had a good career. I've been very fortunate.