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The pop world is cool, but I never really thought of myself as part of it or wanting to be a part of it because I'm on a label that's not really like that. They're not trying to dress me up, they're not trying to do things like that. I feel like I'm sort of separate from that, actually.

I think 'pop' can be a bit of a dirty word. People are very cool in Australia. They don't like to admit that they like pop. There are people who listen to Triple J and cool stuff like that, but commercial radio is massive, and if you look at the sales of the pop songs every week, people love pop music.

The fun of being in the pop world is you can really play with people's perceptions of what the word pop means.

I don't follow any of what the pop world is doing. Sometimes I feel like that's a weakness, actually, that I'm too in my own bubble. But I'm really just interested in the inner journey. And pop is all about the exterior world, the material.

I don't feel like I'm very pop-star lame, but I'm definitely not hipster-cool.

I am totally unapologetic about pop music.

A lot of pop people out there are cool, but they overdo it.

I used to be afraid to use the word 'pop' to describe my music, but underneath my tough, bad-girl sound, there's some fun.