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I mean, if you asked me what I'm going to be doing when I'm 85, I'd make a quick picture in my mind and, well, I'll be singing.

I love pop music. It's not easy to write a good pop song.

I'm an older woman who's not going to have a shiny pop song ever again, so that gives me license to do whatever the hell I want.

I'm not good at happy, lightweight kind of music. I'm not really good at pop music. 'Cars' is probably the only true pop song I ever wrote. I wish I could write more, but I'm not very good at it.

Creating a decent pop song is a challenge - and occasionally, once in every decade - it's kind of fun to do that.

Sometimes you're trapped in writing songs and you don't have enough distance from what you do anymore and you need the talent and the years of other people to come and jump in.

I try to not go, 'I'm writing a pop song.' Music is inherently genre-bending.