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When bands got really big and sold a lot of records back in the day and did really well on the road, everyone developed a certain ego. And there's a certain entitlement that comes with that. And it stops people from communicating the way you used to communicate when you were in a band together and it was all for one, one for all.

I'm used to the egos in the 1960s, '70s and '80s where people just expected massive success and thought it was their birth right to be successful.

I think that some people get wrapped up in their own egos. They need to see certain album sales and certain monuments.

We went into that knowing that we were never going to sell a major record 'cause we didn't sound like these bands, so I just thought this was an opportunity for us to make the kind of records that we wanted and make some money at the same time.

When I started playing music, people weren't selling 5 million records. That was not the standard; that was not the focus.

But I remember we sold nearly 18,000 records in one day.

We've sold over 100,000 records so far, and we're an independent label.

We had a huge audience, we sold truckloads of albums. If we do something that's cool, people will listen to it. If we don't, we would be selling people short.

I grew up in an era where the record companies just sold records to everybody, and the whole family bought songs.

We didn't sell a lot of records, but somehow we left an impression.