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It doesn't need to be a No 1 show, it just needs to be good.

I don't need to be on the number one show. Number 25 is fine.

The best shows are always the ones that are very, very low-concept and just about great characters.

When you're out there with thousands of people it's probably better to have a bigger show to look at, and it turned out really well and they videoed it for me.

I think it's a very ephemeral thing, what makes a show a success.

You want good ratings, you want people to like the show, you want to be appreciated for the hard work you put in. You don't always get it. Every show is not beloved.

I just really want to make a good show and make it as interesting as I can, and anything else is kind of above my pay grade.

Good shows tend to be more fun to do. If you feel like you are doing something good and making a good show, it is a lot more enjoyable.

I think that complicated, nuanced, deep, heavy - that's the place to go. That's what makes a great show. That's what all of us deal with in life.

Quality attracts quality. People want to be on a good show.