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I wouldn't mind being popular in other ways, but not with music.

A lot of very popular mainstream artists are products of record companies and marketing companies, and any time anyone can stand outside of that, that's interesting.

I think that most people who are just artists, who are getting famous, would trade a lot of their fame back for some normalcy, pretty much immediately.

There's a great difference between being popular and being an artist.

I don't think I'd get caught up in the crazy side of the music industry because it's just not in my nature.

I'd rather have people really be able to step back and get their money's worth and look at me as a true artist than somebody who is just regurgitating other material.

I think that my music is really empowering. I just want people to know - especially young people, but really everyone - that you don't have to be so caught up in what everyone else is thinking. You don't have to be the coolest, most popular person. You can just be you and be vulnerable.

There is always one or a few artists who appeal to all sort of people, and, of course, I want to be one of those people.

Personally, I've never been popular, so I'm not surprised that professionally I'm a bit out of step, too.

If you want to be a rock star or just be famous, then run down the street naked, you'll make the news or something. But if you want music to be your livelihood, then play, play, play and play! And eventually you'll get to where you want to be.