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Traditionally, art has been for the select few. We have been brainwashed to believe that Michelangelo had to pat you on the head at birth.

It is only the modern that ever becomes old-fashioned.

I was partly old-fashioned and partly modern.

I'm not old-fashioned.

You see Michelangelo and Picasso and you read literature. I had some innate inchoate yearning for that, but I never really saw where I would fit in. That's called art. And then something happened to pop music, which is that it became art under the hand of the Beatles, the Stones, and Bob Dylan and some other people.

I think I'm very old-fashioned.

In common with Michelangelo and Rembrandt I am more interested in the line, its rise and fall, than in color.

Whether something is old-fashioned or not doesn't resolve the question of whether it's true or not. I can see the temptation of simply thinking, 'Well, there's a cultural mainstream which flows neatly in one direction. You just align with it'. And that really won't do.

When I was young, I was interested in Renaissance art.