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I went to school in Massachusetts at Hampshire College.

I didn't get an athletics scholarship at a major school.

Track and field was very big when I was growing up.

Then I left that school and I went to Cerritos College, which was in southern California; they had one of the best big band programs in the country at the time.

I went to a little liberal-arts college in Missouri called Truman State University.

I went to a comprehensive school and didn't go to university.

I went to Syracuse University.