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I figured managing people was obvious - I'd tell someone what they needed to do and they'd do what I wanted. It turns out that's not the case. It was frustrating at first.

But unlike the setup in most organizations, where there's an administrator on top and creative people or doers underneath, I'm basically a doer and I like to have administrative people underneath me.

When you ask people about what they enjoy doing, time spent with the boss is even worse than time spent cleaning the house. So this suggests that there are a lot of leaders out there who are not doing an adequate job.

I definitely enjoy working with people who can do their thing but also allow me to do my thing, you know? Who respect the process.

Many people have a profession or a job - most people do, I should think. And they do it. And that's what I did.

I'm a natural management guy. I had forgotten that. And I forgot how much I hate it.

For me, my role is about unleashing what people already have inside them that is maybe suppressed in most work environments.

You have to figure out ways to do things on your own. I do my own thing, and I don't pay much attention to what anyone else is doing.